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Update 30.9.2023:
• Capital World Investors legte zu, der Rest stagnierte oder baute leicht ab
• Capital World Investors legte zu, der Rest stagnierte oder baute leicht ab
Update 30.6.2023:
• T. Rowe und Ron Baron legten (leicht) zu, der Rest baute ab, auch Cathie Wood/ARK:
T. Rowe perspektivisch:
Ich glaube, Ronnie kauft seit dem 31.03.2022 immer nur in homöopathischen Dosen $TSLA-Aktien nach, um jedesmal im Bloomberg TV gesichert sagen zu können, er würde $TSLA-Aktien nachkaufen
=> bislang erhöhte er seitdem seine Position (in Stückzahl) um sagenhafte +1,75%
• T. Rowe und Ron Baron legten (leicht) zu, der Rest baute ab, auch Cathie Wood/ARK:
T. Rowe perspektivisch:
Ich glaube, Ronnie kauft seit dem 31.03.2022 immer nur in homöopathischen Dosen $TSLA-Aktien nach, um jedesmal im Bloomberg TV gesichert sagen zu können, er würde $TSLA-Aktien nachkaufen
=> bislang erhöhte er seitdem seine Position (in Stückzahl) um sagenhafte +1,75%
Update 31.3.2023:
Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust, Baillie Gifford -- Ex-#2 nach Elon Musk bei Tesla; auch bei SpaceX investiert:
27.3.
Hedge funds scale back bets against Scottish Mortgage
Investors close short positions in expectation that share price may be nearing bottom
https://www.ft.com/content/7155f6ba-db10-4e0d-bcb3-9060aabdf…
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The move follows a difficult year for Scottish Mortgage, one of the biggest fund winners from the sharp rises in technology stocks during the first two years of the coronavirus pandemic. The trust has been hit by a sell-off in tech and other growth stocks, pushing its share price down by more than a third over the past year and by nearly 60 per cent from its all-time high in late 2021. The trust trades at a 20 per cent discount to its net asset value.
It also comes after one of the trust’s board members sounded the alarm last week on governance and valuation concerns. Amar Bhidé, a director of Scottish Mortgage since 2020, told the FT he had clashed with chair Fiona McBain over the process to appoint two new board members and his view of the risks in the trust’s unquoted companies, which represent about a third of its portfolio.
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Crispin Odey, founder of Odey Asset Management, said he now had only a small short position on Scottish Mortgage but believed the trust still faced headwinds.
“It’s got problems and it’s very expensive still and of course they’ve got quite a lot in private equity ventures, tech ventures, which is dangerous — they all demand rights issue after rights issue. So the percentage in unquoted stocks will keep on going up and people will get scared.”
The trust’s exposure to unquoted stocks, which has crossed its 30 per cent limit several times, is one of the reasons its shares are trading at such a large discount to the value of its assets, according to analysts.
Its holdings in private companies have allowed customers to take advantage of growth opportunities not otherwise readily available to retail investors. It invested in Chinese ecommerce firm Alibaba before it went public as well as spacecraft manufacturer SpaceX and Swedish battery maker Northvolt.
Last week Baillie Gifford contacted institutional clients to defend the trust’s decision to invest in private companies.
“For what it is worth, investing in private companies is core to the Scottish Mortgage proposition, and the trust has been doing so since 2012,” the Edinburgh-based fund group wrote in an email.
“I do believe it is well understood that we are not acting as a traditional venture capital investor, rather deliberately as late-stage investors in private companies.”
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Siehe auch:
<$SMT = Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust>
27.3.
Hedge funds scale back bets against Scottish Mortgage
Investors close short positions in expectation that share price may be nearing bottom
https://www.ft.com/content/7155f6ba-db10-4e0d-bcb3-9060aabdf…
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The move follows a difficult year for Scottish Mortgage, one of the biggest fund winners from the sharp rises in technology stocks during the first two years of the coronavirus pandemic. The trust has been hit by a sell-off in tech and other growth stocks, pushing its share price down by more than a third over the past year and by nearly 60 per cent from its all-time high in late 2021. The trust trades at a 20 per cent discount to its net asset value.
It also comes after one of the trust’s board members sounded the alarm last week on governance and valuation concerns. Amar Bhidé, a director of Scottish Mortgage since 2020, told the FT he had clashed with chair Fiona McBain over the process to appoint two new board members and his view of the risks in the trust’s unquoted companies, which represent about a third of its portfolio.
...
Crispin Odey, founder of Odey Asset Management, said he now had only a small short position on Scottish Mortgage but believed the trust still faced headwinds.
“It’s got problems and it’s very expensive still and of course they’ve got quite a lot in private equity ventures, tech ventures, which is dangerous — they all demand rights issue after rights issue. So the percentage in unquoted stocks will keep on going up and people will get scared.”
The trust’s exposure to unquoted stocks, which has crossed its 30 per cent limit several times, is one of the reasons its shares are trading at such a large discount to the value of its assets, according to analysts.
Its holdings in private companies have allowed customers to take advantage of growth opportunities not otherwise readily available to retail investors. It invested in Chinese ecommerce firm Alibaba before it went public as well as spacecraft manufacturer SpaceX and Swedish battery maker Northvolt.
Last week Baillie Gifford contacted institutional clients to defend the trust’s decision to invest in private companies.
“For what it is worth, investing in private companies is core to the Scottish Mortgage proposition, and the trust has been doing so since 2012,” the Edinburgh-based fund group wrote in an email.
“I do believe it is well understood that we are not acting as a traditional venture capital investor, rather deliberately as late-stage investors in private companies.”
...
Siehe auch:
<$SMT = Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust>
Update komplett zum 31.12.2022:
meine Kommentare dazu:
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291475-1-10/rou…
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291475-1-10/rou…
meine Kommentare dazu:
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291475-1-10/rou…
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291475-1-10/rou…
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Swiss National Bank (SNB):
https://twitter.com/business/status/1623602139711905792
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-08/snb-s-us-…
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The SNB, whose investments mirror indexes, recorded its biggest fourth-quarter loss on Tesla Inc. It sold some 624,000 shares, cutting its holdings in the carmaker to 10.8 million, and those remaining shares declined, lowering the overall value of the position by $1.7 billion.
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https://twitter.com/business/status/1623602139711905792
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-08/snb-s-us-…
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The SNB, whose investments mirror indexes, recorded its biggest fourth-quarter loss on Tesla Inc. It sold some 624,000 shares, cutting its holdings in the carmaker to 10.8 million, and those remaining shares declined, lowering the overall value of the position by $1.7 billion.
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die ersten Zahlen zum 31.12.2022 trudeln ein => Baillie Gifford & Co + ARK Investment Management:
=>
• Baillie Gifford & Co baute weiter ab
• ARK Investment Management machte vorher schon "Buy the dip"
nein, Cathie Wood spielt noch nicht in dieser Liga: linke Achse <==> rechte Achse beachten
Fun Fact: Cathie Wood hielt zum 31.12.2022 weniger $TSLA-Aktien als noch zum 31.3.2022: 1.541.824 zu 1.594.562 (alles auf Basis 30.6.2022 -- siehe oben)
Motivation: Ronnie musste heute wieder ran im Fernsehen und pumpte Tesla und Elon Musk was das Zeug hält:
youtube.com/watch?v=9vFInzaFi6o
<das war Teil eines längeren Interviews>
=>
• Baillie Gifford & Co baute weiter ab
• ARK Investment Management machte vorher schon "Buy the dip"
nein, Cathie Wood spielt noch nicht in dieser Liga: linke Achse <==> rechte Achse beachten
Fun Fact: Cathie Wood hielt zum 31.12.2022 weniger $TSLA-Aktien als noch zum 31.3.2022: 1.541.824 zu 1.594.562 (alles auf Basis 30.6.2022 -- siehe oben)
Motivation: Ronnie musste heute wieder ran im Fernsehen und pumpte Tesla und Elon Musk was das Zeug hält:
youtube.com/watch?v=9vFInzaFi6o
<das war Teil eines längeren Interviews>
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 72.889.182 von faultcode am 09.12.22 17:03:115.2.
Baillie Gifford Assets Fell £100 Billion in 2022, FT Reports
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-05/baillie-g…
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Baillie Gifford’s assets declined more than £100 billion ($120.5 billion) last year following valuation decreases in its investment portfolio, the Financial Times reported.
The Edinburgh-based firm struggled last year amid market volatility that hit the growth tech stocks it had bet on, notably Tesla Inc. and Shopify Inc.
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Baillie Gifford Assets Fell £100 Billion in 2022, FT Reports
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-05/baillie-g…
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Baillie Gifford’s assets declined more than £100 billion ($120.5 billion) last year following valuation decreases in its investment portfolio, the Financial Times reported.
The Edinburgh-based firm struggled last year amid market volatility that hit the growth tech stocks it had bet on, notably Tesla Inc. and Shopify Inc.
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 72.871.899 von faultcode am 07.12.22 00:04:43Baron Partners Fund;Retail ($BPTRX -- dick in Tesla mit >50% Gewicht im Fonds zum 30.9.2022) hat letztes Jahr über 40% an Wert verloren, liegt aber auf 3-Jahres-Basis noch vor dem Benchmark-Index (hier Morningstar US LM Brd Growth TR USD = U.S. large-cap growth):
https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/bptrx/performance
https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/bptrx/performance
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 72.862.209 von faultcode am 05.12.22 13:19:36T. Rowe Price:
• stell dir vor, du hast bei den Bonds in 2022 alles richtig gemacht, nur um deine Performance wieder mit $TSLA in die Tonne zu hauen: 😜
22.12.
Just 1% of Bond Investors Dodged Mistakes That Sank Rivals
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/just-1-bond-investors-avoi…
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Of the 198 bond funds in the US that actively manage at least $1 billion, the ones they oversee — the T. Rowe Price Dynamic Global Bond Fund and the JPMorgan Strategic Income Opportunities Fund — are the only two that have managed to record a gain this year.
Their formulas for success were similar. Both men detected the flaws early in the inflation-is-transitory argument that swept across trading floors and, as a result, managed to shield their portfolios from the full fury of the Federal Reserve’s tightening cycle.
Solomon, who co-manages the T. Rowe fund with Arif Husain in London, used derivatives that made money and protected the portfolio as interest rates rose. Eigen unloaded risky bonds and plowed the proceeds into cash.
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Solomon expresses it this way: “The worst-case scenario for the Fed is an inflation path that bottoms and goes back up again, which is why we believe they will be slow to signal significant cuts. Not a lot of the market is willing to recognize that risk.”
Both managers are, for now at least, sticking to the defensive strategies they staked out late last year.
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=> mein Gefühl sagt mir, daß es auch T. Rowe Price waren, die ihren Fehler mit Tesla 2022 seit Anfang Oktober wieder rückgängig gemacht haben, sprich ihre neue $TSLA-Großposition seitdem wieder abgebaut haben (Daten dazu habe ich aber nicht --> frühestens Mitte Februar 2023)
• stell dir vor, du hast bei den Bonds in 2022 alles richtig gemacht, nur um deine Performance wieder mit $TSLA in die Tonne zu hauen: 😜
22.12.
Just 1% of Bond Investors Dodged Mistakes That Sank Rivals
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/just-1-bond-investors-avoi…
...
Of the 198 bond funds in the US that actively manage at least $1 billion, the ones they oversee — the T. Rowe Price Dynamic Global Bond Fund and the JPMorgan Strategic Income Opportunities Fund — are the only two that have managed to record a gain this year.
Their formulas for success were similar. Both men detected the flaws early in the inflation-is-transitory argument that swept across trading floors and, as a result, managed to shield their portfolios from the full fury of the Federal Reserve’s tightening cycle.
Solomon, who co-manages the T. Rowe fund with Arif Husain in London, used derivatives that made money and protected the portfolio as interest rates rose. Eigen unloaded risky bonds and plowed the proceeds into cash.
...
Solomon expresses it this way: “The worst-case scenario for the Fed is an inflation path that bottoms and goes back up again, which is why we believe they will be slow to signal significant cuts. Not a lot of the market is willing to recognize that risk.”
Both managers are, for now at least, sticking to the defensive strategies they staked out late last year.
...
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=> mein Gefühl sagt mir, daß es auch T. Rowe Price waren, die ihren Fehler mit Tesla 2022 seit Anfang Oktober wieder rückgängig gemacht haben, sprich ihre neue $TSLA-Großposition seitdem wieder abgebaut haben (Daten dazu habe ich aber nicht --> frühestens Mitte Februar 2023)
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