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hier noch ein Bagholder-Chart:
https://robintrack.net/symbol/LK?symbol=LK
=> Instis (wie z.B. Lone Pine Capital (+)) laden ab, Retail nimmt ab
Der Yahoo finance-News-Stream ist nun voll von INVESTOR DEADLINE ALERTs
(+) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-mandels-lone-pine-spill…
Rest hier: https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291324-71-80/ch…
https://robintrack.net/symbol/LK?symbol=LK
=> Instis (wie z.B. Lone Pine Capital (+)) laden ab, Retail nimmt ab
Der Yahoo finance-News-Stream ist nun voll von INVESTOR DEADLINE ALERTs
(+) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-mandels-lone-pine-spill…
Rest hier: https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1291324-71-80/ch…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 63.254.728 von faultcode am 06.04.20 18:35:07
--> nein, denn 95,445,000 bisherige class A shares sind ja nun auch frei verfügbar
=> also +255%
Zitat von faultcode: ...=> das sind +215% mehr frei verfügbare ADS's als zuvor...
--> nein, denn 95,445,000 bisherige class A shares sind ja nun auch frei verfügbar
=> also +255%
6.4.
Luckin Coffee chairman defaults on loan, surrenders company shares
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/luckin-coffee-chairman-defaul…
Luckin Coffee <LK.O> Chairman Charles Zhengyao Lu and Chief Executive Jenny Zhiya Qian have handed over shares in the embattled Chinese coffee chain to lenders after a company controlled by Lu's family defaulted on a $518 million margin loan, one of the banks said on Monday.
The default comes after Luckin, a major rival to Starbucks in China, said last week that much of its 2019 sales were fabricated, sending its shares plunging as much as 82% in U.S. trading and sparking an investigation by China's securities regulator.
Some 515,355,752 class B shares and 95,445,000 class A shares of Luckin had been pledged to secure the loan, including shares additionally pledged by the family trust of Qian, Goldman Sachs Group Inc <GS.N>, one of the banks on the loan, said in a note to clients on Monday proposing a sale of the shares.
Luckin declined to comment. Lu Zhengyao did not immediately respond to a request for comment. It was not possible to contact Qian directly.
If all the shares pledged under the $518 million loan are sold, Lu Zhengyao's voting interest in Luckin Coffee would not decrease, while Qian's beneficial and voting interests would decrease significantly, Goldman Sachs said, without quantifying the size of the reduction.
The class B shares will be converted into American Depositary Shares (ADSs).
Luckin shares were down a further 13.8% in early trading in New York on Monday.
...
=> eine wahre Flut an ADS's kommt nun in den Markt:
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1319716-1-10/luc…
=> 335mio class A shares + 515,355,752 class B-->A shares (~1/3) = ~850mio class A shares (-95.4mio)
=> das sind +215% mehr frei verfügbare ADS's als zuvor und das mit Verkaufsempfehlung von GS
Luckin Coffee chairman defaults on loan, surrenders company shares
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/luckin-coffee-chairman-defaul…
Luckin Coffee <LK.O> Chairman Charles Zhengyao Lu and Chief Executive Jenny Zhiya Qian have handed over shares in the embattled Chinese coffee chain to lenders after a company controlled by Lu's family defaulted on a $518 million margin loan, one of the banks said on Monday.
The default comes after Luckin, a major rival to Starbucks in China, said last week that much of its 2019 sales were fabricated, sending its shares plunging as much as 82% in U.S. trading and sparking an investigation by China's securities regulator.
Some 515,355,752 class B shares and 95,445,000 class A shares of Luckin had been pledged to secure the loan, including shares additionally pledged by the family trust of Qian, Goldman Sachs Group Inc <GS.N>, one of the banks on the loan, said in a note to clients on Monday proposing a sale of the shares.
Luckin declined to comment. Lu Zhengyao did not immediately respond to a request for comment. It was not possible to contact Qian directly.
If all the shares pledged under the $518 million loan are sold, Lu Zhengyao's voting interest in Luckin Coffee would not decrease, while Qian's beneficial and voting interests would decrease significantly, Goldman Sachs said, without quantifying the size of the reduction.
The class B shares will be converted into American Depositary Shares (ADSs).
Luckin shares were down a further 13.8% in early trading in New York on Monday.
...
=> eine wahre Flut an ADS's kommt nun in den Markt:
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1319716-1-10/luc…
=> 335mio class A shares + 515,355,752 class B-->A shares (~1/3) = ~850mio class A shares (-95.4mio)
=> das sind +215% mehr frei verfügbare ADS's als zuvor und das mit Verkaufsempfehlung von GS
naja ich kenne auch keinen (Ex-)Chairman der die Schuld auf sich nehmen würde, stattdessen wechselt man die Company.
Siehe doch mal Dt. Bank und Ackermann, wo steht die Bank
Oder Mehdorn, kennt man ja auch von super Unternehmen
Alles nur C Prominenz ...
Und der CEO der KTG AG hatte wohl auch schon bevor er bei der KTG Bilanzen fälschte es woh auch schon zuvor gemacht..
Fett schwimmt oben ...
Siehe doch mal Dt. Bank und Ackermann, wo steht die Bank
Oder Mehdorn, kennt man ja auch von super Unternehmen
Alles nur C Prominenz ...
Und der CEO der KTG AG hatte wohl auch schon bevor er bei der KTG Bilanzen fälschte es woh auch schon zuvor gemacht..
Fett schwimmt oben ...
3.4.
Tycoon Behind Luckin Loses $1 Billion After Accounting Scandal
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-03/tycoon-be…
The accounting scandal at Starbucks Corp.’s biggest competitor in China triggered a rout in shares linked to the company’s chairman, wiping out most of his wealth and knocking the tycoon out of the ranks of China’s billionaires.
Luckin Coffee Inc.‘s Lu Zhengyao, a former civil servant who built a name for himself as a successful entrepreneur involved in everything from ride-hailing to coffee shops, lost about $1 billion in the past day, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
The 60% drop in Lu’s fortune came after Luckin on Thursday disclosed it is investigating reports that senior executives and employees fabricated transactions. Lu wasn’t accused of wrongdoing.
It’s a stunning reversal of fortune for a man who began his career working for the city of Shijiazhuang in northern China before he aggressively built up a business empire over the past two decades. Lu, 50, became a billionaire after his coffee chain quickly gained popularity by offering java for as little as $1 a cup, a fraction of what Starbucks sells its drinks at.
Before Luckin, Lu started a vehicle insurance, rescue and maintenance business modeled after AAA of the U.S. In 2007, Lu founded a company called Car Inc. that would become Asia’s largest car-rental company by dangling rates as low as 50 yuan ($7) a day. The company sold shares in an initial public offering in Hong Kong in 2014 after an attempt at a U.S. IPO failed.
A year later, Car Inc. took on Uber Technologies Inc. in ride hailing, though with a twist. Instead of having drivers who use their own cars, Lu employed chauffeurs and went for a higher-end offering. It turned out to be a right choice, with the Chinese government later stepping up regulations for the industry. Car Inc.’s taxi-like service survived the clampdown relatively unscathed.
Lu has also added a piece of car manufacturing into his holdings by investing into Borgward, a German car brand that China’s Beiqi Foton Motor Co. was attempting to revive.
In 2018, Lu and several of Car Inc.’s core executives set up Luckin to tap Chinese consumers’ increasing appetite for coffee. While undercutting rivals’ prices, Luckin featured celebrities such as actress Tang Wei in ad campaigns. One of the Car Inc. executives that followed Lu to the coffee business was Jian Liu, whom Luckin on Thursday identified as having engaged in misconduct as the chain’s operating chief.
The warning about the accounting irregularities pushed Luckin’s shares down 76% on Thursday in New York, erasing $840 million off the value of Lu’s stake in the company. Car Inc. tumbled 54% the following day in Hong Kong. Though he doesn’t directly own shares in Car Inc., Lu controls parent UCar Inc., which fell 22% in the lightly traded Neeq market.
Lu, born in 1969 in the southern Fujian province famous for its business heritage, didn’t respond to calls made to his mobile phone Friday. He published a brief posting on the WeChat online messaging service though.
“We should be full of vitality, especially today,” Lu wrote. “Let’s cheer up.”
--> ähnlich zu Steinhoff: da sah und sieht sich Ex-Chairman Christo Wiese auch als Opfer.
Tycoon Behind Luckin Loses $1 Billion After Accounting Scandal
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-03/tycoon-be…
The accounting scandal at Starbucks Corp.’s biggest competitor in China triggered a rout in shares linked to the company’s chairman, wiping out most of his wealth and knocking the tycoon out of the ranks of China’s billionaires.
Luckin Coffee Inc.‘s Lu Zhengyao, a former civil servant who built a name for himself as a successful entrepreneur involved in everything from ride-hailing to coffee shops, lost about $1 billion in the past day, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
The 60% drop in Lu’s fortune came after Luckin on Thursday disclosed it is investigating reports that senior executives and employees fabricated transactions. Lu wasn’t accused of wrongdoing.
It’s a stunning reversal of fortune for a man who began his career working for the city of Shijiazhuang in northern China before he aggressively built up a business empire over the past two decades. Lu, 50, became a billionaire after his coffee chain quickly gained popularity by offering java for as little as $1 a cup, a fraction of what Starbucks sells its drinks at.
Before Luckin, Lu started a vehicle insurance, rescue and maintenance business modeled after AAA of the U.S. In 2007, Lu founded a company called Car Inc. that would become Asia’s largest car-rental company by dangling rates as low as 50 yuan ($7) a day. The company sold shares in an initial public offering in Hong Kong in 2014 after an attempt at a U.S. IPO failed.
A year later, Car Inc. took on Uber Technologies Inc. in ride hailing, though with a twist. Instead of having drivers who use their own cars, Lu employed chauffeurs and went for a higher-end offering. It turned out to be a right choice, with the Chinese government later stepping up regulations for the industry. Car Inc.’s taxi-like service survived the clampdown relatively unscathed.
Lu has also added a piece of car manufacturing into his holdings by investing into Borgward, a German car brand that China’s Beiqi Foton Motor Co. was attempting to revive.
In 2018, Lu and several of Car Inc.’s core executives set up Luckin to tap Chinese consumers’ increasing appetite for coffee. While undercutting rivals’ prices, Luckin featured celebrities such as actress Tang Wei in ad campaigns. One of the Car Inc. executives that followed Lu to the coffee business was Jian Liu, whom Luckin on Thursday identified as having engaged in misconduct as the chain’s operating chief.
The warning about the accounting irregularities pushed Luckin’s shares down 76% on Thursday in New York, erasing $840 million off the value of Lu’s stake in the company. Car Inc. tumbled 54% the following day in Hong Kong. Though he doesn’t directly own shares in Car Inc., Lu controls parent UCar Inc., which fell 22% in the lightly traded Neeq market.
Lu, born in 1969 in the southern Fujian province famous for its business heritage, didn’t respond to calls made to his mobile phone Friday. He published a brief posting on the WeChat online messaging service though.
“We should be full of vitality, especially today,” Lu wrote. “Let’s cheer up.”
--> ähnlich zu Steinhoff: da sah und sieht sich Ex-Chairman Christo Wiese auch als Opfer.
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was ich nicht verstehe: wir reden über 310 mio dollar vom 2. bis 4. quartal 2019. aber im 2. und 3. quartal 2019 wurden zusammen nur 335 mio umsatz gemacht. die zahlen vom 1. quartal sind nicht mehr auf der website, ebenso noch keine vom 4. quartal. das würde ja bedeuten, dass die den meisten umsatz erfunden haben. das kann doch nicht sein????
Bilanzfälschungen der letzten drei Quartale.
Die haben die Zahlen nach oben geschraubt
Typisch Chinesen das gleiche mit den Virus zahlen
Die Chinesen tricksen immer und fälschen Zahlen.
Gruß
P7
Die haben die Zahlen nach oben geschraubt
Typisch Chinesen das gleiche mit den Virus zahlen
Die Chinesen tricksen immer und fälschen Zahlen.
Gruß
P7
Ross Gerber war hier auch mal long -- soviel zu diesem Portfolio-Manager (mit dem Geld fremder Leute):
https://twitter.com/JD_1114/status/1245743760392273920
https://twitter.com/JD_1114/status/1245743760392273920
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 63.217.086 von faultcode am 02.04.20 17:10:15Zu:
--> zum Ende hin bleibt häufig nur noch die Wagenburg
nein, ich habe ihn nicht auf Twitter getrollt. Aber es gab halt entsprechende Kommentare wie z.B.:
Für einen jahrelangen Befürworter der Globalisierung wird die kommende Zeit einer gewissen De-Globalisierung nicht einfach.
Auch, aber nicht nur deshalb: wer kein Cash mehr hat, kann auch den Dip nicht kaufen
Michael Platt sagte einmal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Platt_(financier)
"I don’t have any tolerance for trading losses. I hate losing money more than anything. Losing money is what kills you.
It is not the actual loss. It’s the fact that it messes up your psychology. You lose the bullets in your gun. What happens is you put on a stupid trade, lose $20 million in 10 minutes, and take the trade off. You feel like an idiot, and you’re not in the mood to put on anything else.
Then the elephant walks past you while your gun’s not loaded.
It’s amazing how annoyingly often that happens. In this game, you want to be there when the great trade comes along. It’s the 80/20 rule of life. In trading, 80 percent of your profits come from 20 percent of your ideas."
--> zum Ende hin bleibt häufig nur noch die Wagenburg
nein, ich habe ihn nicht auf Twitter getrollt. Aber es gab halt entsprechende Kommentare wie z.B.:
Für einen jahrelangen Befürworter der Globalisierung wird die kommende Zeit einer gewissen De-Globalisierung nicht einfach.
Auch, aber nicht nur deshalb: wer kein Cash mehr hat, kann auch den Dip nicht kaufen
Michael Platt sagte einmal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Platt_(financier)
"I don’t have any tolerance for trading losses. I hate losing money more than anything. Losing money is what kills you.
It is not the actual loss. It’s the fact that it messes up your psychology. You lose the bullets in your gun. What happens is you put on a stupid trade, lose $20 million in 10 minutes, and take the trade off. You feel like an idiot, and you’re not in the mood to put on anything else.
Then the elephant walks past you while your gun’s not loaded.
It’s amazing how annoyingly often that happens. In this game, you want to be there when the great trade comes along. It’s the 80/20 rule of life. In trading, 80 percent of your profits come from 20 percent of your ideas."
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