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[Karlll]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.230.706 von soleil1504 am 28.03.10 09:08:34

@ soleil,

dabei ist es ein Herzenswunsch von mir, daß BYD diese Geschäftsfelder
mit Erfolg abdecken kann, also nach Möglichkeit Photovoltaik aufs
Dach, Speichermedium dazu und zusätzlich das EV.

Ich bin mir bewußt, daß die bewohnte Erde diesen Paradigmenwechsel
braucht, damit sie weiter bewohnbar bleibt. Es muß dazu noch viel
passieren.

Auf den Weltmeeren schwimmen bereits gigantische Mengen an Plastik-
müll und ich könnte tausend nicht hinnehmbare gleichermaßene Miß
stände aufführen von Bodenverseuchung über Regenwaldabholzung, Erd-
erwärmung usw. usf.

Seit ich die Wahlberechtigung habe, setze ich das Kreuz bei Grün weil ich hoffe, daß das der zentrale Aspekt unseres Lebens auf der
Erde ist, getreu dem Spruch:"Wenn der letzte Baum gerodet... werdet
Ihr merken, daß man Geld nicht essen kann."

Und auch wennich hier investiert bin, ist mir klar, daß die Macht
der großen Konzerne gebrochen werden muß, oder sie sich dem Diktat
vernunftgeführter Politik beugen müssen, nicht zum Wohle der
Gewinnmargen sondern zum Wohle von Planet und Lebewesen.

Gruß Karlll

[Karlll]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.230.706 von soleil1504 am 28.03.10 09:08:34

@ soleil,

sollte BYD die Geschäftsfelder, die man abdecken möchte, mit Erfolg
abdecken, sehe ich das ebenso.

Aber heute steht natürlich erstmal Geely im Mittelpunkt und wollen
wir hoffen, daß der avisierte Deal tatsächlich so über die Bühne
geht und den erhofften Effekt zeitigt, nämlich das der Kurs sich
aufmacht gen Norden, wie es die Geely-Gemeinde herbeisehnt.

Gruß Karlll

[soleil1504]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.229.240 von Karlll am 27.03.10 15:51:42

Und der Inhalt ist genau der Grund, warum BYD so bewertet ist, wie derzeit.
Karlll, die Nachrichten von diesem Wochenende sprechen eher dafür, dass BYD unterbewertet ist.

[soleil1504]

BYD to launch hybrid cars for mass market on Monday
Released 06:49 28-Mar-2010
By Alison Leung - HONG KONG, March 28 (Reuters) -

Chinese car and battery maker BYD Co, backed by U.S. billionaire investor Warren Buffett, said it will start sales of plug-in hybrid cars with solar panels to the public in Shenzhen on Monday.
The company said it will go ahead with the plan to sell the car to mass consumers as planned, despite rumours that it might postpone the date while waiting for the government to announce new consumer subsidies for new energy cars.
"There had been some rumours that we might delay," BYD spokesman Paul Lin told Reuters in a telephone interview on Sunday. "This will be an upgraded version of the F3DM that we have sold to government and corporate clients."
The company has sold several hundred F3DMs, a hybrid vehicle, to the Shenzhen government and companies such as power producers to help cut emissions in the bustling south China city.
BYD's new F3DM is a low emission version with a solar panel on the top of the car, allowing it to run on gasoline, electricity and solar energy.
"The price tag will be announced tomorrow and the cars will be launched in Shenzhen and other cities," Lin said.
Ordinary F3DMs are priced at nearly 150,000 yuan ($21,970) each.
The solar panel can collect energy for the car in daytime although it is not designed to power the car alone, Lin said.
Analysts have said the car's success will depend on government subsidies due to its relatively high cost compared with BYD's other car models that start from 30,000 yuan.
Individual car buyers were expected to get 3,000 yuan to 60,000 yuan in subsidies for new energy cars and the policy will be formally announced in April, local media quoted the president of Chery New Energy Zeng Lingpeng as saying on Friday.
Lin said the government subsidy plan was still in discussion but he expected it would be announced soon.
Separately, Lin said BYD began to deliver its first 100 e6 electric cars this month, for use as taxis. It will launch the e6 for sale to pilot customers later this year.
($1=6.826 Yuan)
(Reporting by Alison Leung; Editing by Sugita Katyal)
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[Karlll]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.229.240 von Karlll am 27.03.10 15:51:42

Und sollte BYD auch noch den Bereich "Smart Grid" abedecken können,
werden viele hoffnungsvolle IPO`s aus den USA einen veritablen
Konkurrenten erhalten. Da man bei BYD alles aus einer Hand abdecken
kann.

[Karlll]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.116.076 von Karlll am 11.03.10 17:25:27

@ Kreuznacher

passend zu meinem Beitrag vom 11.3. hier noch einmal nachstehender
Beitrag, der denjenigen von soleil ergänzt. Und der Inhalt ist genau
der Grund, warum BYD so bewertet ist, wie derzeit.

Und in vielen Foren wird gepostet, BYD sei zu hoch bewertet, aber
dort haben viele noch nicht vollumfänglich erkannt, in welchen
Bereichen BYD demnächst präsent sein wird.

Solarzellen, Batterien dafür, EV und Storage für EVU`s.

Und da das den Lebensbereich eines jeden Bürgers weltweit betrifft
hat BYD einen gigantischen Markt vor sich. Ich denke das hat Wang
erkannt und produziert daher ohne outzusourcen, denn dann wird er
voraussichtlich der Günstigste am Markt sein.

Batteries Are Included in KB Home and BYD's Solar House

California's KB Home and China's BYD Co. teamed up to showcase a solar home of the future, complete with batteries to store electricity.

By Michael Balchunas

Published March 26, 2010

The home of the future – with solar-electric modules on the roof and a lithium-ion battery in the garage – may have a welcome mat out sooner than expected.

The California-based builder KB Home and China's BYD Co., which makes plug-in cars, batteries and solar equipment, have partnered to build modestly priced homes in Lancaster, Calif., that will go a step further than other new solar housing developments by including battery storage of the solar electricity.

Off-grid solar owners for many years have used battery banks to store their generated electricity for later use, but the plan for the KB Home development – smack in the middle of a grid-tied suburban subdivision – could help alter the trajectory for adoption of both solar electricity and plug-in vehicles.

"The energy produced by the solar panels during the peak time is stored in the battery system and can be used later at night for the home," said Bill Wang, business development director for BYD America Corp., at a press conference to announce the partnership in Lancaster, a city about 70 miles north of Los Angeles.


Bill Wang, BYD's business development
director, explains how the energy from
the home's solar array will be stored.

Unlike homemade off-grid battery banks, which have typically used traditional lead-acid batteries, the storage system that KB Home and BYD showed off packages the lithium-ion battery packs in sleek, dark-tinted cabinets with flashing LED lights that continuously display the system's – and perhaps the future homeowner's – status.

The battery packs may store as much as 16 kilowatt-hours of electricity. A typical Southern California household uses about 20 kwh a day. The lithium-ion ferrous phosphate battery packs will be the same type used in plug-in vehicles that BYD expects to roll out in Los Angeles later this year.

Thomas C. DiPrima, executive vice president of KB Home's Southern California division, said the plan is to offer the solar-and-battery combinations first in one model home and four production homes in West Lancaster at no extra cost to the buyers, then to offer the systems as an option in the same subdivision and others. The West Lancaster houses have starting prices that range from about $210,000 to $257,000.

"Our long-term goal is to get to where we can do this nationwide," Mr. DiPrima said. "Our hope and goal is to make it so affordable that it can be offered in a new home as a standard feature," he added, noting that solar PV is becoming cost-effective as a retrofit for many existing homes.

Automakers in recent years have been outlining the future potential deployment of used batteries from plug-in cars to store solar electricity. Because automotive battery packs are expected to have typical lifetimes of about seven years and 100,000 miles, and large-scale manufacturing of electrified vehicles is still about two years away, it appeared that widespread use of used batteries in residential garages would not begin until 2018 to 2020.


The battery packs, shown by Linna Shang,
BYD's regional sales director, will be the
same type used in plug-in vehicles that BYD
expects to roll out later this year.

But the plan described by KB Home and BYD to install new lithium-ion battery packs in garages changes a scenario that was already evolving rapidly. The plan meshes with the accelerating installation of new digital meters at households throughout the nation.

"Smart" meters make it easier for homeowners and utilities to monitor electricity use, and allow for time-of-use pricing, under which electricity costs more at times of peak demand – typically around breakfast and in the afternoon and early evening – and less during off-peak periods.

Solar photovoltaic systems produce electricity only during the daytime, and their early afternoon peak production often coincides with rising air-conditioning loads. The electricity that utilities buy for distribution at such times generally costs much more than does off-peak production. Traditionally, households have paid a predetermined, average price per kwh for electricity. Time-of-use rates permit pricing that more closely reflects real-world usage and generation patterns.

The plan to use new lithium-ion battery packs in residential garages could open up a range of potential opportunities for owners of solar-electric systems and plug-in vehicles. For the first time, they could have significant control over their generation, storage and use of electricity, moving it from a solar array to a car battery, into the home or into a storage battery, depending on their needs and the electricity's price at a particular time.

The battery pack also could pull low-cost electricity off the grid at night for use during higher-priced peak periods, either in the home or in the grid. The system's operation could be programmed with cellphones, PDAs or computers, or could be automated.

Another potential benefit: the end of blackouts. If a power outage occurred on the grid, a homeowner with a digital meter, a solar-and-battery combination, and perhaps a plug-in vehicle, could be unaffected.

If this use of new lithium-ion batteries were to become very popular, it would likely drive down the cost of such batteries for use both in homes and in vehicles more rapidly than expected through economies of scale in manufacturing.



Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris, right, said
the new approach "redefines how Americans
are going to use energy in their houses."
With Mr. Parris are Thomas DiPrima,
executive vice president of KB Home's
Southern California division, and Stella Li,
senior vice president of BYD.

Reducing the cost of solar and battery technologies is a key part of the plan. Using energy more sparingly and efficiently, and saving money for consumers, is the ultimate goal. KB Home plans to study the usage patterns of those who buy the solar-and-battery homes.

"All we'll ask of the homeowners is that they'll share with us their energy bills so we can see what the actual savings are in a home," said Mr. DiPrima.

The city of Lancaster, which has a population of about 145,000 people, is in the Mojave Desert's Antelope Valley, in northern Los Angeles County. The city waived municipal development fees for the homes to be outfitted with solar-and-battery systems, and has fast-tracked the permitting process. The first solar model home is expected to be completed in three or four months.

R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, said at the press conference that petroleum is a finite energy source.

"The price of energy is just going to go up and up and up," he said. "If we can reduce the amount of energy we're using and the cost of it, it becomes much more affordable to live for all the hard-working families in the Antelope Valley and everywhere else."

Mr. Parris said the new approach "redefines how Americans are going to use energy in their houses."

BYD became prominent in U.S. investment circles when Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. bought 10 percent of the company in 2008. It began as a low-cost producer of cellphone batteries, and only recently began manufacturing automobiles, lithium-ion battery packs and solar equipment. Wang Chuanfu, BYD's chairman, is believed to now be the wealthiest person in China.

Stella Li, senior vice president of BYD, said at the press conference that the goals of the partnership to build the solar-and-battery-equipped homes are to help people "save money and make a cleaner planet."

Mr. DiPrima of KB Home said he expects homeowners to have some reservations about the new technology.

"I think the biggest concern will be, 'How difficult will it be for me? Do I have to go throw a switch? Do I have to program a computer?' And the fact that the system does that will probably take some of the fear away," he said.

Unlike some new solar-home developments that are installing tiles that blend in with a roof, KB Home and BYD plan to use stand-off modules of the type commonly added as retrofits to existing buildings. Modules with air space beneath them operate at higher efficiency because of the cooling effect, but are more visible than tiles.

"We are not seeing the aesthetics of solar being a deterrent to anybody," Mr. DiPrima said. "In fact, in California we've found that people want to show off their solar panels. We're not looking at aesthetics as being a challenge. We've got to make sure that the system is as easy to operate as possible. The less they have to do, the better."


http://sunpluggers.com/2010/03/batteries-are-included-in-kb-…


Hätte Euch auch gern die Fotos mit präsentiert, aber es war mir
ums Verrecken nicht möglich. Das erste Foto wurde mir in der
Preview gezeigt, bei den folgenden war das erste wieder weg und
die anderen wurden gar nicht mehr gezeigt. Na ja, hier ist ja
der Link.

[Karlll]

Nikkei said, adding that the plan is expected to help BYD narrow the technical gap with Japanese and Western rivals as higher-precision dies would improve the quality of auto bodies and other products.

Nun, Maßnahmen, die dazu dienen, den Q-Vorsprung westlicher Hersteller zu reduzieren werden über kurz oder lang sicher auch die
Kritiker verstummen lassen, die eben dieses Manko immer bekritteln.

[Karlll]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 39.227.770 von soleil1504 am 27.03.10 08:25:15

Each home will have solar panels, batteries, LED lights, and other energy-related materials made by BYD Corp., a mainland Chinese company with divisions that make batteries and automobiles.

Na, und wenn dann Solarworld und andere Solarhersteller sich unter
Zugzwang sehen, und ihre Angebote mit Storage komplettieren, dann
verläßt unsere BYD den bisherigen Wahrnehmungsbereich der Investoren
als Auto- und künftiger EV-Hersteller.

Habe den Artikel gern gelesen, soleil.

Gruß Karlll

[soleil1504]

FinanzNachrichten.de, 27.03.2010 07:52:00

BYD to take over Japanese die factory -Nikkei

TOKYO, March 27 (Reuters) -

Chinese car and battery maker BYD Co will buy a plant from a major Japanese metal die manufacturer to enhance its competitive edge in auto production, Japan's Nikkei business daily reported on Saturday.

BYD will take over Ogihara Corp's factory in Tatebayashi, Gunma Prefecture, about 70 km (43 miles) north of Tokyo, on April 1, to manufacture high-precision metal dies for use at its Chinese factories, Nikkei said.

The purchase amount is unknown, Nikkei said, adding that the plan is expected to help BYD narrow the technical gap with Japanese and Western rivals as higher-precision dies would improve the quality of auto bodies and other products.

Enjoying rapid growth in China, which overtook the United States to become the world's largest car market last year, BYD plans to lift capital expenditure by 58 percent this year as it embarks on an aggressive expansion plan.

The Hong Kong-listed firm's vehicle business is its strongest-performing segment, accounting for more than half 2009 revenue.

Officials at the both companies were not immediately available for comment.

One of Ogihara's four domestic die production bases, the Tatebayashi plant makes dies for hoods and other auto body parts, accounting for some 20 percent of its production capacity at home.

Ogihara supplies dies to Japanese and foreign automakers, including General Motors Co. Its earnings have been sliding due to the yen's rise and weak domestic demand, Nikkei said.

(Reporting by Tetsushi Kajimoto; Editing by Sugita Katyal)


http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2010-03/16486622…

[soleil1504]

San Fernando Valley Business Journal

Energy Efficient Homes Coming to Lancaster
By Mark Madler - 3/26/2010 - San Fernando Valley Business Journal Staff

KB Homes will build homes in Lancaster that can store solar power using batteries made by a Chinese company, a move that officials said will change how people use electricity.

A prototype home in the Alamosa community off of 60th Street West will be completed this spring and four homes will follow as buyers ask for them.

Each home will have solar panels, batteries, LED lights, and other energy-related materials made by BYD Corp., a mainland Chinese company with divisions that make batteries and automobiles.

Storing electricity generated by the solar panels enables homeowners to cut their energy costs and not rely on utility companies, especially during peak times.

“This is the way we can change the world,” said Stella Li, CEO of BYD Electronics, and senior vice president with BYD Corp.
Li, Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris and KB Home Executive Vice President Tom DiPrima signed an agreement that will have the city waive development fees for the five homes and work to get Los Angeles County to waive construction fees.

The city played matchmaker to bring KB Homes and BYD together and it took only 45 days for the two companies to work out their arrangement.

That the deal was completed in such a short period of time did not surprise Parris who in his first term has done much to change the culture at City Hall. He treats his position as that of a chief executive: giving everyone a chance to speak, making and decision and doing it.

“I think it will surprise a lot of other people because we’ve gotten to the point where government is seen as an obstacle,” Parris said.

http://www.sfvbj.com/print.asp?aid=21507077.4882876.1898052.…